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#248: Is Benedict XVI Still the Pope?—Dr. Edmund Mazza
It’s the question few Catholics, orthodox or heretical, want to raise. It sounds crazy at first. Granted.
But if true, it has world-rocking implications for the Catholic Church: Was the abdication announcement read by then-Pope Benedict XVI on February 11, 2013, canonically valid? Were there fatal flaws in the text that would invalidate it, making Benedict the actual Vicar of Christ, and Francis an anti-pope?
Joining me on The Patrick Coffin Show to tackle this—to say the least—controversial proposition is historian and author Professor Edmund Mazza.
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Bottom line is: Ratzinger *believes* the papacy is a sacrament, which is heresy according to Trent. If the pope looses office over heresy, both Popes have lost office. But if the papacy is a sacrament, both are still Popes and are in sacrilege… Man! Let’s just stay with this: Benedict resigned office and Francis was elect without protest of any cardinal. Until the pope resigns office or dies, he remains Pope. Let’s wait and pray for another year or so.
A little late to the party, Patrick, but welcome anyways. Ann Barnhardt is right.
Was Pope Benedict XVI drugged and removed? I would not put it past the current papacy and the lavender mafia.
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI said “Among you there is also the future pope to whom I promise my unconditional obedience and reverence,” How is that anything but a full resignation?
I have an idea as to why Benedict XVI still wears the white clothes of a pope.
I think he was pressured to resign and he did so begrudgingly.
By wearing the same white clothing that he did while Pope Benedict XVI,
he acts as a thorn in the side of those who pushed him out.
He is, in essence, giving them the finger.
I also think that is why he chose the title “Pope Emeritus” and allows himself to be called “Your Holiness”.
His name is a constant reminder that he has not completely bowed to his detractors.
He has not resigned in his heart or mind – only from the position of pope.
So there are eight sacraments (according to Ratzinger)?
So interesting, thank you both.
So according to Benedict, there are eight sacraments, one of which is pretty damned exclusive!
Popes over the last 60 years could have taken a lesson from the Queen of England: button it.
You both seemed to use the words ‘renounce/renunciation ‘ and ‘resign/resignation ‘ interchangeably therefore we near synonyms. Is it possible to resign without uttering the words ‘I resign’. I see that a king wishing to abdicate might say, “I renounce my claim to the throne”, but I wonder what the nuance of the original Latin is.
So Ben16 made a speech only on the 11th, not the 28th? Was it a post-dated cheque? To me, fascinating as the putative distinction is between munio? and the other ‘m’- word, I just wonder about the illocutionary validity of his wording: can the Queen name a ship without saying, “I name this ship…” ; can a priest absolve without saying, “I absolve…” , can you forgive without saying the word? The validity of a promise may be in doubt:
‘ Promise never to do it again. ” –“OK” — “No, say ‘I promise’. — ‘I promise never to do it again.’
I’m not sure that I heard Benedict say, “I resign.”